Directors of Athletics, Erin McDermott of the University of Chicago and Phil Esten of the University of St. Thomas (MN) chat with AthleticDirectorU on their respective moves from DI Deputy ADs to the DIII AD chair. The two revisit their assessments of fit while contemplating the working relationships with their respective presidents. The conversation ends with advice for those who may be considering a similar path. The discussion is moderated by Athlete Viewpoint Co-Founder, Michael Cross.
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